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[*] posted on 2-14-2011 at 03:17 PM
Michael Urban


I have been looking for information about Michael Urban for some time. He was the husband of Johanna Christiane (Wuensche) Schneider, who married August Dube, oldest son of Michael Dube, in Serbin on 22 Nov 1868.

Michael Urban joined the Bose Comal County volunteers in the Civil War at the same time as August and several other young men. He was discharged at San Antonio in 1862. He was on the Ben Nevis. His youngest daughter was born 31 May 1863.

Sometime between 1863 and 1868, he evidently died, but I have been unable to find any trace of him in this time period. Anybody have any info, clues or suggestions? If so, please click "Post Reply" and share your thoughts.
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question.gif posted on 2-14-2011 at 04:14 PM
Military service might be the easiest way to find information about him


Hi Kathe,

I am sorry I do not have any such information but I thought I would suggest checking with the national archives for any information they might hold on his military service despite being Confederate (I assume that).

How fascinating to hear of him being a Bose Comal County Volunteer. I am a current service member and have been thinking of doing some research to put together a 'Wendish Texan defenders' or something to that effect through the time since we landed at Galveston. This would be an expansion of the current display in the St. Peter building of the WWII uniforms if the museum would accept such.

Please keep me updated on anything you find. I'll look around to see if I can find anything on him as well but to look up any records through the national archives you generally must claim relation to them.

Other sources I personally would check are ancestry.com footnote.com and rootsweb.gen to see what turns up from their massive collections. Lastly, what about the Texas State and/or county archives? The war and following reconstruction era were dark times in Texas.

-Ron
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[*] posted on 2-14-2011 at 09:55 PM


George Nielsen's notes suggest he died in 1863 in Serbin. You might want to ask George why he thinks that might be correct or not and then let us all know.

The last time that either Michael Urban or his wife Hanna Christiana was a sponsor was in 1857. Michael Urban was a dissenter who left St Paul in 1858. See page 55 of Nielsen's Johann Kilian, Pastor. He was not a Delaplane league original owner. Maybe he owned land though and probate of land records might give an idea.

In 1867 when the dissenters came back, his signature was not among the signatures.
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[*] posted on 5-18-2014 at 03:37 PM
A Micheal Urban in Germany


Probably not related: Urban seems to be a pretty common name like Koch:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JQVK-DVY
"Deutschland, Preußen, Brandenburg und Posen, Kirchenbuchduplikate 1794-1874," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JQVK-DVY : accessed 18 May 2014), Michael Urban in entry for Martin Friedrich Wilhelm Bloch and Anna Elisabeth Emilie Urban, 04 Oct 1863, Intended Marriage; citing Schweinert, Schweinert, Schwerin an der Warthe, Posen, Germany, volume 1343-1344, Brandenburgisches Landeshauptarchiv Potsdam; FHL microfilm 1816700.

Name: Martin Friedrich Wilhelm Bloch
Event Type: Intended Marriage
Event Date: 04 Oct 1863
Event Place: Schweinert, Schweinert, Schwerin an der Warthe, Posen, Germany
Gender: Male
Religion: Evangelische
Father's Name: Gottfried Bloch
Spouse's Name: Anna Elisabeth Emilie Urban
Spouse's Father's Name: Michael Urban
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[*] posted on 2-9-2017 at 12:29 PM


Michael Urban was assessed taxes on 55 acres by Bastrop County in 1863. He is not listed on the tax assessment roll for 1864-1866. In 1867 and 1868 his widow Mrs. Christiane Urban is assessed for that 55 acres. He was discharged in August 1862 because he had been appointed a postal carrier, and his third child was born 31 May 1863. Serbin had been a designated a Post Office by that time. F.A. Engelke was the Postmaster for Serbin (appointed in 1860 and again 7/12/1861 by the Confederate States of America) and Anton Pohl became Postmaster in Serbin 1/16/1866. Weldon has found a letter of Pastor Kilian's to the Hon. Mr Brown at Cunninghams (090.700 Kilian to Brown, Postmaster, (DHI, Serbin Collection) 9 Sep 1865) in which he complains that packages were being left with him since Engelke left and he expected someone from Evergreen to pick them up weekly which was not happening. Kilian asserted that the problem with the mail occurred "as the Confederacy died." The Confederacy's death would not likely refer to the year 1862 but a couple of years later nearer 1865 when Kilian's letter was written and when the War ended. There is no mention of Michael Urban. If he was still a postal carrier for Serbin in 1865 one would expect Kilian to include Michael's name in the letter. So, Engelke left before Kilian's letter (I find him in Brenham in 1869 when a daughter is born and was one of those applying for amnesty which required taking an oath of loyalty.) Engelke was a successful businessman after the War, founding a bank in Brenham. We can only hope the records for St. Peter's will surface one day and provide us some answers about Michael Urban's death date. Michael Urban is my great-great grandfather through his son, Andrew.
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[*] posted on 2-19-2017 at 12:37 PM


Michael, John, and Jacob Urban are assessed taxes in the Delaplain League by Bastrop County for a number of years. It is noted in another post they were not original owners in the Delaplain League. As the above three are brothers the land was possibly inherited from their father, Johann George Urban, who died 10 October 1854.
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[*] posted on 3-23-2017 at 01:26 PM


Regarding the Delaplain property occupied by the three Urban brothers-John, Michael, and Jacob, I suggested it may have been inherited. As the father died before the Ben Nevis arrived in Texas the transfer of land (not yet purchased by Lehman and Dube) from him to his sons would be tricky unless he had made a will. Not sure how the Wends treated women as inheritors-the mother lived into 1855. Michael Urban's widow, Johanne Christiane, was assessed on their 55 acres beginning in 1867. Therefore, Texas was a community property state by that time. The point I wished to make is that these brothers are assessed taxes on property in the Delaplain league. As I look at the map of the League I see a "Michael Urban Survey" in quotation marks-what does that mean?
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